When I was a young girl I often visited my Grandfather (Victor Barwick) who lived in Wellington Street, Windsor (just a good drop kick from the junction oval) and he would tell me about the times when he couldn’t get to training at St Kilda. This was often as he was a Commercial Traveller and in those days had to go everywhere by train or tram for his work. When he couldn’t get to training at St. Kilda, and that was often by all accounts, he told the Club he would train with Richmond, a practice common in those days it seems but I cannot imagine it happening in this day and age can you?. One night in 1909 when St. Kilda wanted him urgently they sent a “handsome cab” to collect him. The result of this mission was that they were told by the Richmond Club that they had not seen him. After disagreements over training procedures with St. Kilda the Club took the decision to ask him to return his boots and knickers. He then went to Brighton, to play in the VFA, where you didn’t have to train although he did return to St. Kilda in 1913 but only played one more game.